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century300
 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I just picked up off of craigslist for $25 a Heart of the Hide PRO-6 with the cbb14 letters. When was this made and any other specifics you can tell me about it??? Its a fastback with a basket web. Any info would be great. Thanks
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Hrking4675
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3 dot in that case is 2003. Those were some remakes. Pretty sure it was leather from Phils that they "assembled" in the USA. Could have been horween produced though.

Century300... All of this is outlined on the first page sticky I wrote. 14= Guttman Leather CBB 4/11 = November 1994 mauf date

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I made an Excel date code calculator for the current Rawlings date code format. Just enter in the code and it will calculate the manufacture date. You have to download the file, then it should work in Excel.
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-fm5qolBCeRU1ZRQlRSTmlqQlE
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mlanlgey5
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I only had three letter in my code aea01 for a pro tb i just picked up
hornween from 2007? or march 03?
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Hrking4675
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Try March 93. They used 3 letter codes originally with the 01 designating horween. Older way is Year/Month

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allgloves22
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What's the deal with the BEER models? Were they an exclusive pro issued glove only issued for professional players?
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Nope, just happen to have been made in October of 2008.
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mattingly
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allgloves22 wrote:
What's the deal with the BEER models? Were they an exclusive pro issued glove only issued for professional players?


Just curious... why would you think the date stamp that's used on all of their gloves, would make yours a PI?

The way you can be sure that a Rawlings glove is a PI, is to have ordered it yourself from the pro dept. (or get it directly from a current/former pro player with a pro card, who has pro dept. ordering privileges). Otherwise, you're most likely relying on the story of the guy you bought it from, or the random opinions of others.
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thirdbase24
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Glove-Works wrote:
Anything with a 217-____ is usually an 11" glove
Anything with an 88-____ is usually an 11.25" glove (Very narrow with the double heel lace)
Anything with a 200-____ is usually an 11.5" glove
Anything with a 201-____ is usually an 11.75" glove
Anything with a 12-____ is usually a 12" glove (Basically replaced the old PRO1000)
Anything with a 1000-____ is usually a 12.25" glove (Used to be well known 12" model)
Anything with a 504-_____ is usually a 12.5" glove
Anything with a 301-_____ is usually a 12.75" glove (not as deep/ wide as a PRO302)
Anything with a 302-_____ is usually a 12.75" glove
Anything with a 303-_____ is usually a 12.75" glove (more narrow and long compared to a PRO302)
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Does anyone know the historical significance of where these numbers come from? I used to assume, for instance, that in things like PRO12TC, the 12 stood for 12", but this logic doesn't translate to things like a PRO200 or anything else. Also, I'm pretty sure the 12TC was originally 11.5", so it doesn't even work historically for that. I know the numbers are used to define the shape / size of the die used in cutting the palm, but wonder if the number designations are as arbitrary as they seem? Does anyone have any info on this? I'm sure Bob does, but I know he's been crazy busy since announcing his retirement.
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thirdbase24
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Here is a follow-up to my own question. Bob tells me that they really are as arbitrary as they look. For instance, the PRO200 may have been modeled after another glove pattern (by another maker), and the 200 was just a reference to that other pattern. But no meaning can be derived from any of the numbers simply upon inspection. Apparently there was an effort a while back to have the numbers make some sense...for instance, the PRO-H became the PRO-70, which was a step up in size from the PRO-60, etc...but MLB players hated it and refused to accept a PRO-H that was marked PRO-70 simply because they had become used to receiving PRO-H's. So not long after, the effort to inject meaning into the pattern numbers fell through. Interesting.
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David
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That's cool to know, thanks for taking the time to find an answer.
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Gabby
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Nice contribution, thirdbase!
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thirdbase24
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Regarding the efforts to streamline model numbers - this is the first time I've seen a PRO-T marked as an '80'. Thought I would share (not mine, but its on ebay right now):
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bigmac25
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so, its come up a few times in this thread, but there is a pro1000 on ebay that currently ends is 00.
A few people have asked, but no one has even ventured to guess what that means (date code REB00)
anyone have any ideas in the designation?
Thanks!
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thirdbase24
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bigmac25 wrote:
so, its come up a few times in this thread, but there is a pro1000 on ebay that currently ends is 00.
A few people have asked, but no one has even ventured to guess what that means (date code REB00)
anyone have any ideas in the designation?
Thanks!


it was verified some time ago that this is horween
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