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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
Unread postPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:40 pm 
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May 1988


B=1 (1991)
L=2 (1992)
A=3(1993)
C=4(1994)
K=5(1995)

H=6(1996)
O=7(1997)

apparently 1998 was when they farmed out the HOH's to asia

R=8(1988)
S=9(1989)
E=01990)



the 2nd and 3rd letter are the month (who really cares right?)

EB=01 JA
EL=02 FB
EA=03 MR
EC=04 AP
EK=05 MY
EH=06 JN
EO=07 JL
ER=08 AU
ES=09 SP
BE=10 OC
BB=11 NV
BO=12 DC

and of course the 01 suffix is the coveted Horween leather code

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I have a question about the "01" code...

I believe Hrking has stated a couple of times that the HOH gloves that were being made after the move from the USA were still made with Horween... Is there any rhyme or reason why they weren't stamping those gloves with codes to indicate they were made with Horween ?

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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They started branding them with "Rawlings" on the thumb ect. I (think) at that point they were only using leather from horween (its a tannery, not a specific kind of leather) so there was not a need to indicate 01, 09, 14. Now, you see things like "J" in the model to indicate Japanese HOH, "K" for kip (I have yet to find out who makes this leather) and then the Oxblood is another non-horween made leather. I think almost everything else still comes from Horween.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I have a Rawlings USA-6 12" glove that I picked up on ebay for $5 and planned to relace for my son to use. It is marked as made in USA.

Would the date coding apply to this glove? On the thumb, it is stamped RBB00.

From the information provided by Wake I read that as made in 1988, with the "00" meaning the type of leather.

Was Rawlings making lower end gloves in the USA in 1988?

I was also wondering about the dot codes. Wake's post starts with three dots for 1998. I have a Century Series CII-4 glove I bought about 1993 or 1994. Does the dot code system apply to the Century Series gloves? If so, does the 1 dot through 5 dot pattern repeat itself so backtracking from Wake's info on three dots for 1998, could I interpret that three dots before 1998 would equal 1993?

Thanks in advance for any assistance or insight anyone might be able to provide.


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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When I wrote the guide I only took into consideration HOH/PP type gloves.
If I am not mistaken, Rawlings has switched from Dots to Letters and back when they ran out of datesusing three letters I guess. The way the use the letters now though they could go for a while since its 4 instead of 3. They could theoretically go on forever now.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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PRONP- Neifi Perez Model. NP2- 11.25 NP3- 11.25 (modified conventional back), NP4- 11.5, NP5 11.75 NP12 12"


Well... I know the NP3 has the modified conventional back. :?
I'm on baseball savings about to get an NP3 with single post.
It's a conventional back.
Is it just the picture or does it come with the modified conventional back?

any help would be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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That one has a regular conventional back. I'm pretty sure you can get both though. It seems the regular stock back is the modified one. The PRONP3TLB (I think) originally had it and then the PRONP3P did as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I picked up a RHT HOH made in the U.S.A. PRO-6 model off Craig'slist.

The code marked is 0EA01. I assume it's a glove made in March 1997 using Horween leather?


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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vormyogi wrote:
Two letter questions?

What does an "S" mean, as in TCS or 07SC?

What does a "W" mean, as in BFW?
Woman's

The "S" suffix on the TCS models does not mean solid web. The 12TCS is obviously a Trapeze, Conventional Back...the S in this particular case, must have another meaning? Anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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The lettering stuff I wrote is applicable to post USA gloves so 1998 onwards. The only pre 1998 stuff is the BLACKHORSE coding.

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Hey Guys, I am trying to learn about Rawlings and I have read all about the codes but it still hasn't helped me figure out one of my gloves. The model is PRO-IMTC. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


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PRO-1MTC originally a 12" or 11.5" Modified Trap. This pattern was exclusively made in the USA (1998) until Ballgloves.com had it made in an 11.5" special make up. I think I have seen it in 01 Horween and 14 Guttman before.

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Jason or Wake

we have a PRO1MTC from Morton and also a PRO2004JBT.....I can't tell any difference...depth, holes, all of it. Looks to me like the PRO1MTC is a PRO200. Am I wrong?


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As far as I know, yes, the Morton 1MTC is a PRO200-4. Wake and I have debated the size of the original USA 1MTC though. The one's I have seen were 12, Wake's measured 11.5 I believe.

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turn2 wrote:
Personalized Glove Codes:
PRONP- Neifi Perez Model. NP2- 11.25 NP3- 11.25 (modified conventional back), NP4- 11.5, NP5 11.75 NP12 12"


Well... I know the NP3 has the modified conventional back. :?
I'm on baseball savings about to get an NP3 with single post.
It's a conventional back.
Is it just the picture or does it come with the modified conventional back?

any help would be appreciated.

cole


I actually had that glove in my possession and sent it back as it did not have the modified conventional back and the glove measured out at 11 inches. The picture you see of the glove on the website is accurate.

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