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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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trixx82 wrote:
Sweet....F'ING.....Glove

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X2, can you post some more pictures?


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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trixx82 wrote:
Sweet....F'ING.....Glove

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X2, can you post some more pictures?


Sorry, I missed this post. I'll try and take some pics tomorrow and post them. I have an original Rawlings Mantle XPG glove that I will photograph next to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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If, in fact, the "Blackhorse dating system ... [w]orks for Pre 1998 and Current 4 letter dating system" and if the "dot" system was used for 1998-2002, what would be the explanation for a 4 dot, "Rawlings on the thumb" TB24 with Made in USA stamps and label?

Did the transition to overseas manufacturing take place over several months and vary slightly by model? In other words, could there have been some HOH's made in the USA as late as 1999? Or were dots ever used prior to the Blackhorse era ending in 1997?


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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4 dots 1999.

There were USA's made for the public up until 1999. There are quite a few 98/99's from both the USA and Asia.

I've even seen a hand ful of 1 dot 2001 PRO-204MT's

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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My head is so numb. Maybe because it's so late. I don't get any of this and it doesn't seem to apply to my non-custom Morton's Rawlings. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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My head is so numb. Maybe because it's so late. I don't get any of this and it doesn't seem to apply to my non-custom Morton's Rawlings. :shock:

What do you need help with?

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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Well ballgloves.com says this model is non-oil horween. I don't seen any horween designation on it at all. It's XPG3 on the inner pinky and the outter pinky the letters are BEEO which to me means october 07? But then I read further that could mean 1991??? Grrrrr.....Brings me to another matter, how come Morton's has gloves nobody else has?


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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topherloaf wrote:
Well ballgloves.com says this model is non-oil horween. I don't seen any horween designation on it at all. It's XPG3 on the inner pinky and the outter pinky the letters are BEEO which to me means october 07? But then I read further that could mean 1991??? Grrrrr.....Brings me to another matter, how come Morton's has gloves nobody else has?

Correct me if I'm wrong, guys-
1) The Horween designation (01) is only applicable to the Horween gloves made in the US.
2) For BEEO: B1, O7, E0 (from the guide)
1007 = 10/07 = October 2007, you had it right
3) Morton has annual exclusives with either Rawlings HOH/PP, TPX Flares/some TPX Pros, and even some Mizunos, such as the Pro Whites. They order a minimum of 135-150 or so of each model that they special order. These are exclusives to Morton only as he is the only one that orders them.
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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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Ok interesting. Still....I have a horween glove. I'm excited. File it under "never going to get rid of." I'm trying to get in touch with Mr. Clevenhagen to get a two-piece web for it as I bought it second hand and prefer that web to the I-Web. Ok ok, let's put it this way, when the fire alarm goes off, I grab my wife, swiss army knife, and that glove.


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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My fault :? Can someone educate me :)

"Not a problem but I am not sure you know what BLEM means. It doesn't mean bleamished or second. BLEM is a code that Rawlings used to mark what and where the glove was made. The M means Missouri but I am not sure what the other letters mean. They had used this code on the first 2 years the glove was made but changed it because people thought it meant blemished. Feel free to contact Rawlings to verify this information. The number is 314-819-2800. Thank You for your interest and Have A Great Day."


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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Hi I have a glove question, im new to this board and i am amaze at all the knowledge you guys have.
I recently bought a rawling trapeze, glold glove series it has 4 dots so i know with the information you guys shared that its fom 1999. ok here's my question it has on the inside thumb PRO14TBS any ideals on what the TBS stands for??? I thought it might stand for
Trapeze Black Series but im just guessing, also i thought all gold glove series start with a GG in front of the numbers.
Any information would be great and i do thank you guys in advance.


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The Natural wrote:
any ideals on what the TBS stands for???



T = trapeze
B = black

the "S" issue has been asked about in several places on this site, and I've never found anything that definitively answers it. could be "soft" (as in the leather treatment?) Could you post a picture (maybe in the "Modern Glove Pictures" section? Not sure if that counts as a re-post...)

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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They started branding them with "Rawlings" on the thumb ect. I (think) at that point they were only using leather from horween (its a tannery, not a specific kind of leather) so there was not a need to indicate 01, 09, 14. Now, you see things like "J" in the model to indicate Japanese HOH, "K" for kip (I have yet to find out who makes this leather) and then the Oxblood is another non-horween made leather. I think almost everything else still comes from Horween.


Interesting...

I have a wing-tip XFCB-17 (USA), and the date code is KCE09, so I'll assume 1994..... So what you're saying is that the 09 suffix on my glove is no different than the leather type on gloves that have the 01 and 14 suffixes?


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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duane - yes, the "09" indicates the tannery of the leather that the glove is made of. I have a list at my office and I'll look it up (if it isn't on the thread about Rawlings codes).


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