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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
Unread postPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:40 pm 
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B=1 (1991)
L=2 (1992)
A=3(1993)
C=4(1994)
K=5(1995)

H=6(1996)
O=7(1997)

apparently 1998 was when they farmed out the HOH's to asia

R=8(1988)
S=9(1989)
E=01990)



the 2nd and 3rd letter are the month (who really cares right?)

EB=01 JA
EL=02 FB
EA=03 MR
EC=04 AP
EK=05 MY
EH=06 JN
EO=07 JL
ER=08 AU
ES=09 SP
BE=10 OC
BB=11 NV
BO=12 DC

and of course the 01 suffix is the coveted Horween leather code

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I have a question about the "01" code...

I believe Hrking has stated a couple of times that the HOH gloves that were being made after the move from the USA were still made with Horween... Is there any rhyme or reason why they weren't stamping those gloves with codes to indicate they were made with Horween ?

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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They started branding them with "Rawlings" on the thumb ect. I (think) at that point they were only using leather from horween (its a tannery, not a specific kind of leather) so there was not a need to indicate 01, 09, 14. Now, you see things like "J" in the model to indicate Japanese HOH, "K" for kip (I have yet to find out who makes this leather) and then the Oxblood is another non-horween made leather. I think almost everything else still comes from Horween.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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I have a Rawlings USA-6 12" glove that I picked up on ebay for $5 and planned to relace for my son to use. It is marked as made in USA.

Would the date coding apply to this glove? On the thumb, it is stamped RBB00.

From the information provided by Wake I read that as made in 1988, with the "00" meaning the type of leather.

Was Rawlings making lower end gloves in the USA in 1988?

I was also wondering about the dot codes. Wake's post starts with three dots for 1998. I have a Century Series CII-4 glove I bought about 1993 or 1994. Does the dot code system apply to the Century Series gloves? If so, does the 1 dot through 5 dot pattern repeat itself so backtracking from Wake's info on three dots for 1998, could I interpret that three dots before 1998 would equal 1993?

Thanks in advance for any assistance or insight anyone might be able to provide.


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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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When I wrote the guide I only took into consideration HOH/PP type gloves.
If I am not mistaken, Rawlings has switched from Dots to Letters and back when they ran out of datesusing three letters I guess. The way the use the letters now though they could go for a while since its 4 instead of 3. They could theoretically go on forever now.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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PRONP- Neifi Perez Model. NP2- 11.25 NP3- 11.25 (modified conventional back), NP4- 11.5, NP5 11.75 NP12 12"


Well... I know the NP3 has the modified conventional back. :?
I'm on baseball savings about to get an NP3 with single post.
It's a conventional back.
Is it just the picture or does it come with the modified conventional back?

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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That one has a regular conventional back. I'm pretty sure you can get both though. It seems the regular stock back is the modified one. The PRONP3TLB (I think) originally had it and then the PRONP3P did as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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Thanks for the outstanding post!

May I ask some questions for clarification? On Ebay, I bought a Rawlings DCT first base mitt with three dots (meaning 1998). Under the DCT it says, USA.
1) Does this mean it is Horween leather?

2) I know that Horween is the tannery in Chicago, but does anyone know which year Rawlings made gloves from "Horween" leather in that tannery?

3) The 2010 PRO DCTDC H of H first base mitt is soft and pre-borken in. Is this glove still Horween from the Horween tannery except it is pre-oiled which makes it softer? Basically, I'm wondering this: Does the softness in the new gloves mean inferior quality leather or not?

Thanks. I am trying to sort through all the rhetoric and thought you would know the truth here.
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 Post subject: Re: Rawlings Date/Pattern Coding (Blackhorse/Dot Code, etc)
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On Ebay, I bought a Rawlings DCT first base mitt with three dots (meaning 1998). Under the DCT it says, USA.
1) Does this mean it is Horween leather?
Since it is a 1998 USA made... Most likely. Pics always help, but this situation seems like 99.9% it is Horween.

2) I know that Horween is the tannery in Chicago, but does anyone know which year Rawlings made gloves from "Horween" leather in that tannery?
You mean the start year? They still supply many of the Rawlings leathers, including the Dual Core series, but not the "J" Gloves with Japanese leather.

3) The 2010 PRO DCTDC H of H first base mitt is soft and pre-borken in. Is this glove still Horween from the Horween tannery except it is pre-oiled which makes it softer? Basically, I'm wondering this: Does the softness in the new gloves mean inferior quality leather or not?
"Inferior quality." That is up to you. Many of us think of these gloves to not be as good for various different reasons, but if cared for properly, they will be fine. After years of use though, these gloves tend to break down more easily compared to stiffer and dryer leather. And yes, Horween supplies this leather.

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Duke,

Let's see some pictures of the DCT.

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What does the RTD stand for in the RTD200SC?


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Not sure. When I wrote the guide, it was for the high end gloves. (HOH/PP). The RTD is a pretty good glove considering its price around $40.

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dirtbag13 wrote:
What does the RTD stand for in the RTD200SC?


I believe it's for Rawlings Team Dealer. Retailer prefix then design code, like the old CHA for Champs Sporting Goods

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what does the R mean on my pro1175-9pr?
also what does EOBE29 mean?


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They added the "R" for the Primo looking PPs/HOHs that have the reverse welt on the thumb/pinky.

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