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 Post subject: HAWK BASEBALL IS BORN!
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:11 pm 
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Wanted to let you know guys that Hawk Baseball has oficially launched here in Mexico. Here are some pics of the first orders I've got for custom gloves. Have to tell you that the leather on this two first gloves is really stiff and will take some time to break in. I'll ask the first buyers for feedback on breaking-in time and feel of the glove. A sample is in production for "Wake" the site administrator. Thank you again and hope you like the pics. That's the logo I'll use but will be perfected. Please let me know what you guys think.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... c8786d.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... b3caaa.jpg
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http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... c9acc8.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... ba2b69.jpg

I'm starting my own brand of baseball gloves. I live in Mexico and have a contact in a factory, what I'm looking for is that you guys could help me giving a look to my gloves. If someone is willing to help me I will gladly send pics of my first glove. It's my sample! I might have similar quality as the Rolin gloves and maybe are produced in the same factory. What do you like most of the Rolin brand?

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:30 pm 
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Hi,

The highly custom options of Rolin are top for me. The leather is thick, hard, and good quality. In order to compete you are going to have to sell cheaper than Rolin to start with.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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I do have the personalization options such as web style, body, palm, lace, color, embroidery, flag option, and I have more color options than the Rolin website. The leather is stiff too but as I have to notice the leather types in Mexico are somehow not as stiff as I could desire to be for a glove. I do like gloves stiff as boards that need about six months of heavy use to brake in. And also I'm tryin' to make my manufacturer to go full finger filling to increase resistance. Have any of you heard of a brand called "Domin"?

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Nope, never heard of the brand Domin. Can you post some photos on this site? Maybe send the sample glove to the Glove Works Forum owner "wake". He does a lot of reviews on here and if he likes the glove, you will get sales from here.

If you can get similar quality to the Rawlings Made in USA horween leather gloves, your business will do really, really well.

Focus on the stitching too, a lot of complaints about Mexican made gloves is that the stitching is poorly done.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:28 pm 
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"Domin" does not have a website, as soon as I figure out how to post pics I'll send some of my Domin glove and certainly of my sample glove. The Horween type leather would be a tough one to get, but I'm trying to find a supplier. And as for the stitching of the gloves I have to give you that. For some reason workers are not properly instructed on how to do a correct glove stitching. It might be caused by the fact that most glove manufacturers down here are former workers of Rolin and Palomares. I will try to be close to the factory to provide accurate finishings on the gloves. And I'm thinking about pricing around $110 including S/H and a glove bag. What do you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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That would be a good starting price point. I don't care about glove bags but some do. I think getting a sample to the board owner, "wake", would be the best idea. Contact him on here. Make sure that the sample is good.... :)

Great leather is essential.... I have included a pic of a Glovesmith horween and the embossed patch below. You MUST find a horween-like supplier in Mexico to make a great business out of this. Rolin is just too big...

Have a look at the new embossed leather patches that Glovesmith are doing... there are more photos on here... they are fantastic and could be something your brand could do... makes you stand out from the rest of the manufacturers in Mexico

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Found this color combination on a Rolin glove on a retail store down here. Looks nice but I don't like the greasy spot on the palm, something that happens to HOH's and some other brands... If anyone likes it I can go to the store and get it for you guys!
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... Rolin3.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... Rolin2.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... /Rolin.jpg

I found this glove interesting 'cause it has the same finish my sample glove has, I mean, the pointy "wings" on the thumb and pinky. This is the sample glove of my company, what do you guys think? How it looks?

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... ample3.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... ample2.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... ample1.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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The stitching... but you know this.... what size is the glove? I prefer the bowl shape that your sample has... I would have to feel the leather to make a final judgment. Do you think you can get a sample glove to wake?


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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I already have a glove in production, another sample, so I can send it to wake, and the size of the sample in the pics is 11.50 but runs a little bit larger than other brands. I have encountered a few problems with the sizing and the matters with the stitching. I do want to keep production here in Mexico but manufacturers are not to open that someone with no glove assembly experience to give them instructions.

Oh and my logo will be ready in a few days 'cause I believe that it's a big part of a glove the looks of a badge and a logo.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Well I think you should have some say in the manufacturing since you are the one putting your brand on the glove. If the factory is not willing to listen to you, then perhaps you should direct them to this forum and translate what people say about the stitching of Mexican made gloves.

Good luck! I look forward to seeing your logo and what wake thinks about the glove.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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I can handle stitching that is not perfect on the outside of the glove, but the biggest complaints seem to be when there is stitching on the inside that makes wearing the glove uncomfortable. This seems like it should be fixable as virtually no gloves I own HAVE any exposed stitching in the lining.

The "greasy" spot is actually a mix of wax and oil used to laminate the palm leather to the lining leather. I am not sure if gloves have always had this or why some soak through while others don't. Nokona uses it but is doesn't soak through, Glovesmith, Rawlings, and Wilson seem to have that spot some of the time.

Also, I think most people would prefer an extra piece of leather on the back of the wrist strap instead of crappy shearling.

And can you get real lacing?


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Rous wrote:
I can handle stitching that is not perfect on the outside of the glove, but the biggest complaints seem to be when there is stitching on the inside that makes wearing the glove uncomfortable. This seems like it should be fixable as virtually no gloves I own HAVE any exposed stitching in the lining.

The "greasy" spot is actually a mix of wax and oil used to laminate the palm leather to the lining leather. I am not sure if gloves have always had this or why some soak through while others don't. Nokona uses it but is doesn't soak through, Glovesmith, Rawlings, and Wilson seem to have that spot some of the time.

Also, I think most people would prefer an extra piece of leather on the back of the wrist strap instead of crappy shearling.

And can you get real lacing?


I'm still tryin' to find out why every single glove factory down here seems to be doing some stitching in the inside part of the palm, I've asked them to not do it but they seem like they can't figure it out on how to put together the lining and the outer shell without sewing the palm. And as for the shearling they do use wool in the gloves but the finishings are not as carefully made as should be. I'll tell them to use an extra piece of leather or maybe do a better work with the shearling.

I still don't understand what you mean about "real lacing", does the one in my sample looks not real? It's rawhide but not as stiff as I wish. As always I appreciate all of your feedback.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Another sample glove, I like the color. It's very stiff, I feel like we're getting there as for the quality of the glove.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... 2565f2.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m61 ... fcc33f.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:08 pm 
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Molina, how are the gloves breaking in?
I just got a custom Rolin glove, and though the leather is very nice and stiff, it's breaking in quicker than I expected. Like you mentioned, I love taking my time with a glove to break it in, and that's what's going to set yourself apart from the Rolin gloves.
I could live with the stitching not being perfect, but the leather has to be rock hard and it has to last a long time.
Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to build my own brand...
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Rock hard, thick, leather and Tanners laces. Those Mexican laces have got to go... :)

More photos please.


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